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Offline nysa

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IMAP support in blog?
« on: December 05, 2002, 07:27:51 AM »
Hi!

I just upgraded my "basement" server to run IMAP instead of POP3, mainly to make my webmail system a bit more responsive and to get access to folders. Well, then it just struck me that my blog server no longer was working as it requires a POP3 account... Are there any (future?) plans to implement IMAP? In the meanwhile I guess I have to access another mail account  :wink:

Anyway, it's a really great program!

/Anders

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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2002, 11:16:45 AM »
I had not even thought of IMAP since I've always used POP3 but now that you bring it up, I will look into the possibility for the next major release - 8.0 ...

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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2002, 11:56:25 PM »
You can continue running your POP server with your IMAP server.  I've got both running at home - IMAP to provide me with webmail externally, and POP for behind the firewall.

I dunno if you were aware of that, so I thought I'd mention it.

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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2002, 08:29:12 PM »
Ok, I guess that would be possible; actually my POP server is still up and running, only that all mails are now "stolen" by IMAP. I'll look into the configuration, because that's of course a nice "workaround" - even though I prefere to use IMAP only, also at home (why do you have both? Security issues? I'm using IMP, so what's behind it isn't really important as I don't allow connections to IMAP from internet (neither POP for that matter) - at least that's my current belief 8) )

Thank's for the comment!

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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2002, 01:59:28 AM »
That's interesting.  I'm using uwimap and popa3 under OpenBSD, and they both coexist quite nicely.  I use SquirrelMail to do my webmail.

The reason for both is pretty simple - I prefer POP3 for use with a mail client - I like to be able to combine multiple email accounts into one overall view, which Outlook Express lets me do pretty simply.  I've got five different email accounts that I check/dump into OE via POP3, and they can all get processed into the same folders with the same filters.

It might be possible to do what I want via IMAP, but I couldn't be bothered ;)

The IMAP is just so that I can use squirrel mail - which is for security, when you get right down to it.  I've got my squirrel mail set up as an SSL site, so that passwords aren't sent in plain text.  I could have accomplished the same thing by tunnelling POP over SSH, but it's far more complicated than I wanted to get.

I don't do any IMAP filtering though, so everything is still in my "INBOX" on the web mail - I check my mail throughout the day at work, deleting the ones that I don't care to keep.  Every now and then, I fire up Outlook Express, and download the ones I want to keep (as well as checking all my other email accounts, which aren't used nearly so much)

As far as I was aware, IMAP and POP3 are only interfaces to get at the underlying mail system, so unless IMP does some stuff with mail as it's received, it should still be available via POP3.

EMail is far too complex under the hood - especially for how insecure it is.  (JMHO)

How's that novel for you?

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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2002, 04:56:35 AM »
I'm running Debian with popa3d and courier-imap. Courier seems to use a more emacs like MH format of the mail folder. IMP works with both POP and IMAP, but I wanted IMAP to get a faster system and the folder view. Unfortunately (?) I can't reach my mail over IMAP or POP from work because of the restrictive firewall, but a webmail system (over SSL, of course!) does the trick. My IMP is not the most current; either I upgrade to a newer release or maybe I should also try the SquirrelMail. Ok, I guess we've come far enough away from the initial topic  :lol:

Actually it would be quite nice with IMAP support in the next release of blog - even better if the implementation was done over SSL so I don't spread my user and password all over the globe. I'm a bit concerned with security, so I don't really like the idea to use the server mode to fetch blog related mails from an external server. This is not a big deal as I'm running my own domain and mail server, but anyway  8)

Now I'm gonna dig into configuration files to see if there's any way my mail services can co-exist in a friendly way...

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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2002, 05:24:55 AM »
Well, this was really easier than expected :!: I just downloaded and istalled courier-pop and guess what??? Now I can use both POP and IMAP!

Fahim - I still think it would be nice with IMAP support (preferrably over SSL), but for my personal usage I don't need it any more!

It turned out that my POP deamon and my IMAP deamon were using incompatible mail storage files; POP was very traditional whereas IMAP used Maildir folders (MH style, I suppose). When changing one of them, things got working again  :D

Thanks Greg for putting me on the right track!

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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2002, 01:55:31 AM »
Glad I could help - it never would have occured to me that the mail databases would be a different format - I kind of assumed that all *nix mail servers used the same format...

Thanks for enlightening me too :)

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Re: IMAP support in blog?
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2005, 10:49:13 PM »
Any further developments with this?  Will we see it in the next 8.0 beta?

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Re: IMAP support in blog?
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2005, 03:24:58 PM »
Nope, that wasn't (and stilll isn't - sorry :-() a planned feature for the next beta. The next beta is going to be all about merging Blog and BlogMan so that your entries/journal are separated from where you post them - you can post the same journal to static HTML pages via Blog itself and at the same time, post to a dynamic server like WP or MT using XML-RPC. But I might add this one into the beta after that if things go fairly smoothly with the next beta ...